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by Paul Orwin

Friday, July 19, 2002
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9:54 PM
by Paul
"Godless" misses the point, however, in arguing that this is a case of mathematical inadequacy. The question is not whether or not I can do it, but whether or not it is 1) theoretically possible, and 2) practical. Was Godel (no umlauts in Blogger) a naysayer, when he proved that no sufficiently powerful logical system could be consistent and complete? Was Heisenberg just not so good at solving equations, or did he find a fundamental physical limitation? I suspect that most of my readers understand that these rhetorical questions illustrate that fundamental limitations exist, and sometimes, we find them. I don't know for a fact that such a limitation exists in this instance, although smarter people than me or Godless have argued that case (Penrose, and John Searle, just to name a couple in a particular field). I won't spend any more time on this till next week, but here is some food for thought: Suppose we define complexity as the ratio of the description of a system to the system itself. It is a bit tricky, but we can think of the system itself as taking up space within a defined solution space S. If that system's set of solutions fills the space, then it is "maximally complex". If not, then a ratio can describe that complexity. The ratio can be approximated for the three general types of solutions to dynamical systems; point solutions, limit cycles, and "strange attractors". Think about it...
